OT: Who was better, R9 or Van Basten?

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DougInskip
6500 posts League Winner
Both arguably the greatest strikers of all time, but who was better and why? I can only say R9 as that's who I watched growing up, I missed MVB. Be interesting to hear people's opinions who seen both play.

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  • 1690_Ulster_FC
    3636 posts National Call-Up
    Van Basten. He had it all.

    Briiliant ball control, amazing in the air, could score from anywhere.

    Pity about his ankles.

    Forza Milan.

    Ps Ronaldo was immense though... pity about his knees lol.
  • Kove
    4113 posts National Call-Up
    Van Basten, though for me the best Dutch forward in recent memory is still Bergkamp.

    And just to put it a little more plainly, here's Jack Whitehall:
    Dennis Bergkamp could take off his shoes and walk through a field of human faeces and medical refuse then get to the end and scrape the debris from underneath his toenail, flick it onto the floor of a toilet bathroom and that skid mark would still have a greater footballing legacy than Robin van Persie.’
  • truegunn3r
    9129 posts Has That Special Something
    Different era's. It's like comparing Maradona and Messi.
  • CovLee_Candice
    4167 posts National Call-Up
    Kove wrote: »
    Van Basten, though for me the best Dutch forward in recent memory is still Bergkamp.

    And just to put it a little more plainly, here's Jack Whitehall:
    Dennis Bergkamp could take off his shoes and walk through a field of human faeces and medical refuse then get to the end and scrape the debris from underneath his toenail, flick it onto the floor of a toilet bathroom and that skid mark would still have a greater footballing legacy than Robin van Persie.’

    Salty arsenal fans?
  • holdenwait
    58040 posts National Treasure
    edited September 2017
    jack whitehall a 29 yo **** comedian , thanks for his pearls of wisdom on football lol
  • Ker_Mit
    5935 posts Big Money Move
    probably no definite answer in this case
  • mattiparka
    10411 posts Has That Special Something
    Kove wrote: »
    And just to put it a little more plainly, here's Jack Whitehall:
    Dennis Bergkamp could take off his shoes and walk through a field of human faeces and medical refuse then get to the end and scrape the debris from underneath his toenail, flick it onto the floor of a toilet bathroom and that skid mark would still have a greater footballing legacy than Robin van Persie.’

    cringe
  • Kove
    4113 posts National Call-Up
    edited September 2017
    I'm going to come out and admit that you shouldn't post replies quickly after reading on a bus. I read RVP or Van Basten rather than R9.

    So because I thought the question was dumb I decided to be a bit of a **** about it.

    My answer would still be the same. Just without the low quality bait.

    MVB was amazing to watch and for someone of his height to possess such technical ability was amazing. R9 absolutely had a brilliant career, and was amazing but I am of the view that MVB's would have even better if it was not for retiring early.

    OP: sorry for semi derailing your thread.
  • Mvb in his era r9 in his era. Who cares anyway pele was better than both ;)
  • I SiR MartY I
    5612 posts Big Money Move
    Prime R9 is the GOAT
  • Rutta
    6136 posts Big Money Move
    Ronaldo just for the 2002 WC win.
  • Currieman
    4991 posts Big Money Move
    I never really got to see Van Basten but grew up watching R9 and he was just ridiculous. What a player.
  • Lard_Lad
    12642 posts Has That Special Something
    Shearer was better than them both
  • Lard_Lad wrote: »
    Shearer was better than them both

    Agreed

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  • Thamightyboro
    7108 posts Big Money Move
    Lard_Lad wrote: »
    Shearer was better than them both

    Agreed

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    Even as a boro fan I have to agree, shame that he chose to play for the barcodes rather than a top top team who knows what he could have achieved but massive respect for doing so.

    Eras are just too hard to compare in most sports , different rules, rounds, mentality, science and nobodys opinion will ever be right half cant wven agree on who was the best with an era let alone across eras.
  • DougInskip
    6500 posts League Winner
    R9 everyday for me. Unstoppable.

  • CeeQue
    11396 posts Has That Special Something
    R9 without a doubt.
  • AIeks
    4994 posts National Call-Up
    R9
  • Choepiechakie
    31961 posts National Team Captain
    If it wasnt for his injuries MvB would nhave been the best dutch footballer in history, the guy was immense.

    Ppl saying shearer obviously didnt watch him
  • holdenwait
    58040 posts National Treasure
    Cruyff > Mvb

    But apples and oranges a bit anyways
  • Choepiechakie
    31961 posts National Team Captain
    holdenwait wrote: »
    Cruyff > Mvb

    But apples and oranges a bit anyways

    Now ofc but if Marco stayed injury free he would have achieved unbelievable things, without a doubt
  • holdenwait wrote: »
    Cruyff > Mvb

    But apples and oranges a bit anyways

    Maradona>pele>cruyff>mvb
  • 1690_Ulster_FC
    3636 posts National Call-Up
    holdenwait wrote: »
    Cruyff > Mvb

    But apples and oranges a bit anyways

    Maradona>pele>cruyff>mvb

    Best, Maldini, Maradona, Baresi, Garrincha, Cruyff, Gianni Rivera, Zidane, Van Basten. I couldn't put them in order though.
  • holdenwait wrote: »
    Cruyff > Mvb

    But apples and oranges a bit anyways

    Maradona>pele>cruyff>mvb

    Best, Maldini, Maradona, Baresi, Garrincha, Cruyff, Gianni Rivera, Zidane, Van Basten. I couldn't put them in order though.

    Tbh you could add Messi Ronaldo, different eras
  • 1690_Ulster_FC
    3636 posts National Call-Up
    holdenwait wrote: »
    Cruyff > Mvb

    But apples and oranges a bit anyways

    Maradona>pele>cruyff>mvb

    Best, Maldini, Maradona, Baresi, Garrincha, Cruyff, Gianni Rivera, Zidane, Van Basten. I couldn't put them in order though.

    Tbh you could add Messi Ronaldo, different eras

    As good as they are and they are modern day legends... its a semi contact sport these days.
  • holdenwait wrote: »
    Cruyff > Mvb

    But apples and oranges a bit anyways

    Maradona>pele>cruyff>mvb

    Best, Maldini, Maradona, Baresi, Garrincha, Cruyff, Gianni Rivera, Zidane, Van Basten. I couldn't put them in order though.

    Tbh you could add Messi Ronaldo, different eras

    As good as they are and they are modern day legends... its a semi contact sport these days.

    Well yeah these days all you have to do is breathe on someone and its a foul, not like the good ol days when a tackle was a tackle
  • Pughy30
    26374 posts Player of the Year
    holdenwait wrote: »
    Cruyff > Mvb

    But apples and oranges a bit anyways

    Maradona>pele>cruyff>mvb

    Best, Maldini, Maradona, Baresi, Garrincha, Cruyff, Gianni Rivera, Zidane, Van Basten. I couldn't put them in order though.

    So where would you put Messi do you consider him better than these players?
  • Ishibum
    13013 posts Has That Special Something
    Van Basten is probably the best player I've seen play in the flesh (along with Batistuta for pure goalscoring). Ronaldo was a beast though and able to basically reinvent himself twice and still be a force.
  • Id rather have r9s icon rather than van bastens legend card
  • Khalabeeb
    727 posts Sunday League Hero
    holdenwait wrote: »
    Cruyff > Mvb

    But apples and oranges a bit anyways

    Cruyff is in the top 3 of all time.
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