Pes will be better then FIFA this year

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  • EA_DarDar
    1214 posts EA Staff (retired)
    Hey Folks,

    I appreciate the discussion and personally I don't mind the topic it's on, everyone is entitled to their opinions and we're all here to discuss these things, that being said this thread has been derailed multiple times and is getting pretty heated.

    I'd like for everyone to please continue with the main discussion and approach stuff in a civil manner, there is no need to insult each other, if this thread continues to derail and get nasty I'm going to have to close it down.

    I appreciate it everyone!

    - DarDar.
  • MysticM
    1064 posts Professional
    EA_DarDar wrote: »
    Hey Folks,

    I appreciate the discussion and personally I don't mind the topic it's on, everyone is entitled to their opinions and we're all here to discuss these things, that being said this thread has been derailed multiple times and is getting pretty heated.

    I'd like for everyone to please continue with the main discussion and approach stuff in a civil manner, there is no need to insult each other, if this thread continues to derail and get nasty I'm going to have to close it down.

    I appreciate it everyone!

    - DarDar.

    Ok, thanks for the heads up.
    Sorry.
  • TheMightyBee
    4129 posts National Call-Up
    DSD27 wrote: »
    :joy:

    It's all about opinions, I can easily get to gold 1 and beat FIFA on ultimate difficulty but playing PES 2018 on superstar with emotions turned off and all condition on green is way harder for me. The AI is so intelligent, personally I trust no video where the setup isn't shown as people always have agendas and bias. If you can easily beat it why not show off how good you are, it would be an interesting watch, maybe you should be focusing on PES!

    PES can learn from FIFA and FIFA can certainly learn from PES gameplay wise, there must be a reason PES wins best sports game from critics.

    I personally like both but I just find the gameplay more frustrating and inconsistent in FIFA.
  • DannyUK
    411 posts Sunday League Hero
    EA_DarDar wrote: »
    Hey Folks,

    I appreciate the discussion and personally I don't mind the topic it's on, everyone is entitled to their opinions and we're all here to discuss these things, that being said this thread has been derailed multiple times and is getting pretty heated.

    I'd like for everyone to please continue with the main discussion and approach stuff in a civil manner, there is no need to insult each other, if this thread continues to derail and get nasty I'm going to have to close it down.

    I appreciate it everyone!

    - DarDar.

    Thank You, someone with common sense. I've said people have their own views but when it gets personal and trolls jump all over the thread then it goes bad. Hopefully the trolls see sense.
  • Denisianes
    8159 posts League Winner
    DannyUK wrote: »
    EA_DarDar wrote: »
    Hey Folks,

    I appreciate the discussion and personally I don't mind the topic it's on, everyone is entitled to their opinions and we're all here to discuss these things, that being said this thread has been derailed multiple times and is getting pretty heated.

    I'd like for everyone to please continue with the main discussion and approach stuff in a civil manner, there is no need to insult each other, if this thread continues to derail and get nasty I'm going to have to close it down.

    I appreciate it everyone!

    - DarDar.

    Thank You, someone with common sense. I've said people have their own views but when it gets personal and trolls jump all over the thread then it goes bad. Hopefully the trolls see sense.

    Having a different view doesn't make someone a troll or vice versa. Trolls can't see sense cause they thrive on chaos and salt.
  • Retro_G
    33023 posts National Team Captain
    DSD27 wrote: »
    :joy:

    It's all about opinions, I can easily get to gold 1 and beat FIFA on ultimate difficulty but playing PES 2018 on superstar with emotions turned off and all condition on green is way harder for me. The AI is so intelligent, personally I trust no video where the setup isn't shown as people always have agendas and bias. If you can easily beat it why not show off how good you are, it would be an interesting watch, maybe you should be focusing on PES!

    PES can learn from FIFA and FIFA can certainly learn from PES gameplay wise, there must be a reason PES wins best sports game from critics.

    I personally like both but I just find the gameplay more frustrating and inconsistent in FIFA.

    Exactly mate, find the A.I. brilliant in PES. It's a better game than Fifa offline. Fifa is the better online game. The full release of PES will have a harder difficulty setting called legendary.
  • SteveG
    1605 posts Play-Off Hero
    After Fifa 17 I think rather than arguing over which game is better we should be saying the obvious point: both of them need to improve, the leap from Fifa 07/08 from the likes of the 03/04/05 games was massive. SO much that when you break it down its kind of disappointing that there is a massive F up every year with the games in recent years.

    I was really looking forward to the next gen thinking this would be amazing, boy was I wrong, I mean its ok but its not great, 2014 was ruined by the OP lopped ball over the top followed by the awful score from kick off problem in 15. I thought 16 was ok not great but ok however lots of people hated 16. 17 had the worst button delay I have experienced in years along with crap such as people getting banned for spending 10k on a bronze for a sbc, along with park the bus, ooo and remind me to pick up a OTW card of Renato Sanches on release day if hes going to be the best midfielder in the game (I will let Kante away with it due to him being good in RL)
  • TriggerMike
    6440 posts Big Money Move
    edited September 2017
    PES 17 was actually pretty decent but there was simply a lack of numbers playing so waiting for matchmaking was too long. I've said for ages that if PES keeps improving like it keeps doing then FIFA will finally have a real competitor. However, I don't see it being this year.

    PES will need to have better servers, more licenses and more people playing it before it's worth playing. That said, i've enjoyed the past 2 PES titles however they're not really competing with FIFA and I don't see it doing so this year.
  • DannyUK
    411 posts Sunday League Hero
    PES 17 was actually pretty decent but there was simply a lack of numbers playing so waiting for matchmaking was too long. I've said for ages that if PES keeps improving like it keeps doing then FIFA will finally have a real competitor. However, I don't see it being this year.

    PES will need to have better servers, more licenses and more people playing it before it's worth playing. That said, i've enjoyed the past 2 PES titles however they're not really competing with FIFA and I don't see it doing so this year.

    Yes I agree with that, currently PES is not up to the standard of Fifa at the moment, if it had more features and similar parts to the game like Fifa I think it would pass Fifa.

    I've only just played PES demo for the first time and I notice better passing and ability on the ball. I guess both games have their pros and cons but I will see how the Fifa demo plays out.
  • leon1309
    4549 posts National Call-Up
    edited September 2017
    From what I saw in demo, PES did not improve enough gameplay wise to be worth extra 40 EUR (to be honest PC version should have got and upgrade ages ago, and I do not care about 3v3 possibility...so for offline ML 17 will do, my club did not really work for me, even if I did get few legends last season...preorder cancelled.
  • TriggerMike
    6440 posts Big Money Move
    leon1309 wrote: »
    From what I saw in demo, PES did not improve enough gameplay wise to be worth extra 40 EUR (to be honest PC version should have got and upgrade ages ago, and I do not care about 3v3 possibility...so for offline ML 17 will do, my club did not really work for me, even if I did get few legends last season...preorder cancelled.

    I personally feel PES took a small step backwards when they stopped doing Master League Online. I feel it would appeal to more people if they could buy players they wanted and not just balls/spins to get players at random.
  • PG13
    430 posts An Exciting Prospect
    leon1309 wrote: »
    From what I saw in demo, PES did not improve enough gameplay wise to be worth extra 40 EUR (to be honest PC version should have got and upgrade ages ago, and I do not care about 3v3 possibility...so for offline ML 17 will do, my club did not really work for me, even if I did get few legends last season...preorder cancelled.

    I personally feel PES took a small step backwards when they stopped doing Master League Online. I feel it would appeal to more people if they could buy players they wanted and not just balls/spins to get players at random.

    Hi m8 i had pes 14. I was wondering what was the mode where you have to get a certain number of points from about four games then top 16 qualify for a cup? It was something like that.
  • Enigma8784
    1823 posts Play-Off Hero
    Watch a trailer on the legends going to be in PES then tell me it'll be better. Karl Heinz Rieldle seemed the pick of the bunch.

    Oh and that famous striker Usain Bolt.
  • MysticM
    1064 posts Professional
    Enigma8784 wrote: »
    Watch a trailer on the legends going to be in PES then tell me it'll be better. Karl Heinz Rieldle seemed the pick of the bunch.

    Oh and that famous striker Usain Bolt.

    ROMÁRIO
    SÓCRATES
    M. SALAS
    I. ZAMORANO
    M. OWEN
    IAN RUSH
    R. FOWLER
    L. RICKEN
    K. RIEDLE
    M. ZORC
    J. HEINRICH
    N. DICKEL
    D. MARADONA
    D. BECKHAM

    And i guess they will include the barca legends from pes2017 again , not sure about that tho.
  • Shaanxz
    24576 posts Player of the Year
    MysticM wrote: »
    Enigma8784 wrote: »
    Watch a trailer on the legends going to be in PES then tell me it'll be better. Karl Heinz Rieldle seemed the pick of the bunch.

    Oh and that famous striker Usain Bolt.

    ROMÁRIO
    SÓCRATES
    M. SALAS
    I. ZAMORANO
    M. OWEN
    IAN RUSH
    R. FOWLER
    L. RICKEN
    K. RIEDLE
    M. ZORC
    J. HEINRICH
    N. DICKEL
    D. MARADONA
    D. BECKHAM

    And i guess they will include the barca legends from pes2017 again , not sure about that tho.

    Shame they're only available for a limited time
  • MysticM
    1064 posts Professional
    edited September 2017
    Shaanxz wrote: »
    MysticM wrote: »
    Enigma8784 wrote: »
    Watch a trailer on the legends going to be in PES then tell me it'll be better. Karl Heinz Rieldle seemed the pick of the bunch.

    Oh and that famous striker Usain Bolt.

    ROMÁRIO
    SÓCRATES
    M. SALAS
    I. ZAMORANO
    M. OWEN
    IAN RUSH
    R. FOWLER
    L. RICKEN
    K. RIEDLE
    M. ZORC
    J. HEINRICH
    N. DICKEL
    D. MARADONA
    D. BECKHAM

    And i guess they will include the barca legends from pes2017 again , not sure about that tho.

    Shame they're only available for a limited time

    I know, but i will get one of them, each time they get released/ its 100% chance like last 2 years, who you get is a different story.

    I got Edgar Davids/Xavi and Ronaldinho on pes17.

    R10 was probly the reason i enjoyed pes17 so much, even on fifa i had R10(55ish pace)in my starting 11 :)
  • Shaanxz
    24576 posts Player of the Year
    MysticM wrote: »
    Shaanxz wrote: »
    MysticM wrote: »
    Enigma8784 wrote: »
    Watch a trailer on the legends going to be in PES then tell me it'll be better. Karl Heinz Rieldle seemed the pick of the bunch.

    Oh and that famous striker Usain Bolt.

    ROMÁRIO
    SÓCRATES
    M. SALAS
    I. ZAMORANO
    M. OWEN
    IAN RUSH
    R. FOWLER
    L. RICKEN
    K. RIEDLE
    M. ZORC
    J. HEINRICH
    N. DICKEL
    D. MARADONA
    D. BECKHAM

    And i guess they will include the barca legends from pes2017 again , not sure about that tho.

    Shame they're only available for a limited time

    I know, but i will get one of them, each time they get released/ its 100% chance like last 2 years, who you get is a different story.

    I got Edgar Davids/Xavi and Ronaldinho on pes17.

    R10 was probly the reason i enjoyed pes17 so much, even on fifa i had R10(55ish pace)in my starting 11 :)

    Konami need to market legends better. They don't feel special on pes compared to FIFA
  • aliheidari2520
    261 posts Sunday League Hero
    Shaanxz wrote: »
    MysticM wrote: »
    Enigma8784 wrote: »
    Watch a trailer on the legends going to be in PES then tell me it'll be better. Karl Heinz Rieldle seemed the pick of the bunch.

    Oh and that famous striker Usain Bolt.

    ROMÁRIO
    SÓCRATES
    M. SALAS
    I. ZAMORANO
    M. OWEN
    IAN RUSH
    R. FOWLER
    L. RICKEN
    K. RIEDLE
    M. ZORC
    J. HEINRICH
    N. DICKEL
    D. MARADONA
    D. BECKHAM

    And i guess they will include the barca legends from pes2017 again , not sure about that tho.

    Shame they're only available for a limited time


    they were in offline mode too
  • Retro_G
    33023 posts National Team Captain
    leon1309 wrote: »
    From what I saw in demo, PES did not improve enough gameplay wise to be worth extra 40 EUR (to be honest PC version should have got and upgrade ages ago, and I do not care about 3v3 possibility...so for offline ML 17 will do, my club did not really work for me, even if I did get few legends last season...preorder cancelled.

    I personally feel PES took a small step backwards when they stopped doing Master League Online. I feel it would appeal to more people if they could buy players they wanted and not just balls/spins to get players at random.

    Agreed. My Club gets old fast.
  • Shaanxz
    24576 posts Player of the Year
    Shaanxz wrote: »
    MysticM wrote: »
    Enigma8784 wrote: »
    Watch a trailer on the legends going to be in PES then tell me it'll be better. Karl Heinz Rieldle seemed the pick of the bunch.

    Oh and that famous striker Usain Bolt.

    ROMÁRIO
    SÓCRATES
    M. SALAS
    I. ZAMORANO
    M. OWEN
    IAN RUSH
    R. FOWLER
    L. RICKEN
    K. RIEDLE
    M. ZORC
    J. HEINRICH
    N. DICKEL
    D. MARADONA
    D. BECKHAM

    And i guess they will include the barca legends from pes2017 again , not sure about that tho.

    Shame they're only available for a limited time


    they were in offline mode too

    YEah but you need to play my club to get them. Pes online is so boring imo compared to offline
  • aliheidari2520
    261 posts Sunday League Hero
    edited September 2017
    about pes 2018 demo difficulty:
    first of all I really don't like pes 2018 gameplay !! (I liked 2017)
    2018 has several massive issues (poor defensive reactions which make dribbling easy (me and CPU) ... OP L1+triangle ... etc)
    but difficulty?! I don't think so !
    I played pes 2017 more than fifa 17 ... I am not very pro at none of them
    but today played both in a row ... fifa 17 (demo) and pes 2018 (demo)

    played 3 matches on fifa (legendary) ... PSG-PSG (twice) ... Bayern-Bayern(once) ... won all 3 game by 1-0 !!
    played 6 matches on pes (superstar) ... all Germany-Germany (2 win, 1 draw, 3 lose)

    am I a poor player? maybe ! but this poor player managed to win all of his 3 games in fifa with 3 clean sheets ! (considering in 2017 I played much more pes than fifa ... but still harder to win on pes 2018 than fifa 17)
  • aliheidari2520
    261 posts Sunday League Hero
    Shaanxz wrote: »
    Shaanxz wrote: »
    MysticM wrote: »
    Enigma8784 wrote: »
    Watch a trailer on the legends going to be in PES then tell me it'll be better. Karl Heinz Rieldle seemed the pick of the bunch.

    Oh and that famous striker Usain Bolt.

    ROMÁRIO
    SÓCRATES
    M. SALAS
    I. ZAMORANO
    M. OWEN
    IAN RUSH
    R. FOWLER
    L. RICKEN
    K. RIEDLE
    M. ZORC
    J. HEINRICH
    N. DICKEL
    D. MARADONA
    D. BECKHAM

    And i guess they will include the barca legends from pes2017 again , not sure about that tho.

    Shame they're only available for a limited time


    they were in offline mode too

    YEah but you need to play my club to get them. Pes online is so boring imo compared to offline

    no !
    you can import all of them via team import.
  • ZizioGardo
    1439 posts Professional
    no !
    you can import all of them via team import.

    Yes, but you can only import the legends you have on My Club. So you have to play My Club and be lucky to get some of the legends from ball openings.
  • daviec
    285 posts Sunday League Hero
    ZizioGardo wrote: »
    no !
    you can import all of them via team import.

    Yes, but you can only import the legends you have on My Club. So you have to play My Club and be lucky to get some of the legends from ball openings.

    If you're on PC or PS you can just get them from the option file instead, but if you're on Xbox then yes, you'll need to spin them in MyClub first.
  • aliheidari2520
    261 posts Sunday League Hero
    edited September 2017
    daviec wrote: »
    ZizioGardo wrote: »
    no !
    you can import all of them via team import.

    Yes, but you can only import the legends you have on My Club. So you have to play My Club and be lucky to get some of the legends from ball openings.

    If you're on PC or PS you can just get them from the option file instead, but if you're on Xbox then yes, you'll need to spin them in MyClub first.

    exactly
    I had all of them in my edit mode on PS4
  • Recoba
    4384 posts National Call-Up
  • Solja
    539 posts An Exciting Prospect
    https://youtu.be/psOnKClCy-g

    Check out the graphics they are insane compare to fifa pes really have stepped up this year
  • Boysie91
    16145 posts World Class
    Why does PES Demo graphics look awful zoomed out but clear in cut scenes/highlights?
  • Shaanxz
    24576 posts Player of the Year
    Boysie91 wrote: »
    Why does PES Demo graphics look awful zoomed out but clear in cut scenes/highlights?

    Pes graphics are bad on Xbox if you're playing on it
  • Shaanxz
    24576 posts Player of the Year
    Solja wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/psOnKClCy-g

    Check out the graphics they are insane compare to fifa pes really have stepped up this year

    It's taken them 4 years on fox engine to get this good. Look at how good the last metal gear solid was in terms of graphics
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