Weekend League Qualification is a joke!!!

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edwardv93
62 posts Park Captain
edited June 2017
Does anyone else think the recent weekend league qualifications have been stupidly hard to qualify?
I don'y consider myself a great fifa player. When I do play weekend league I usually finish around Silver 1/Gold 3. Which statistically is around 17/40. Like I said it's not a great record however... I don't think these qualification tournaments open up enough people to be able to play weekend league regualrly. If I were to win a tournament it would mean winning 4 games in a row. Which means if I were to do that in weekend league it would return a record of around 35/40 or more. Which is totally unrealistic. I also think the recent TOTS rewards for this competition have ruined the qualification process for Weekend league. Players who wouldn't normally play this tournament as they will already have qualification for Weekend league are now playing the tournament and knocking out players who haven't qualified just for these rewards

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  • edwardv93
    62 posts Park Captain
    Earlier on in the year I used to qualify regularly however due to the rewards on Fifa 17 following TOTS I haven'g played Weekend league in over 2 months. I'm missing out because the qualification process is open to competetive players who have probably already qualified. Just for the TOTS rewards. EA need to have the TOTS rewards in a seperated tournament. And only allow players who haven't qualified to play in the Weekend League Knock out tournament
  • edwardv93
    62 posts Park Captain
    My record overall in Fifa 17 is 673-163-880.
    As said before I'm not a great fifa player.. however my win percentage is around 35-40% which would put me around Silver 3-Gold 3. But players like me with a similair record aren't able to even qualify because of the TOTS rewards. EA need to get rid of the rewards for Weekend Daily Knockout match asap
  • Whoman
    6051 posts Big Money Move
    Shouldn't it have become progressively easier, especially since people nowadays can only play the qualifying tournament once (rather than all attempts earlier in the cycle) ?
  • Ofthewelsh
    3568 posts National Call-Up
    Whoman wrote: »
    Shouldn't it have become progressively easier, especially since people nowadays can only play the qualifying tournament once (rather than all attempts earlier in the cycle) ?

    It hasn't. I'm assuming lots of players who wouldn't bother previously are after the reward card.
    I happen to agree with the OP here, but I can't see it changing, and to be honest it's just a reflection of how poor the playing options for FUT are with the removal of the online cups
  • edwardv93
    62 posts Park Captain
    Ofthewelsh wrote: »
    Whoman wrote: »
    Shouldn't it have become progressively easier, especially since people nowadays can only play the qualifying tournament once (rather than all attempts earlier in the cycle) ?

    It hasn't. I'm assuming lots of players who wouldn't bother previously are after the reward card.
    I happen to agree with the OP here, but I can't see it changing, and to be honest it's just a reflection of how poor the playing options for FUT are with the removal of the online cups

    Exactly my point. Players who normally wouldn't bother are just after the reward card. If EA put the reward card in a separate tournament then the qualification would be progressively easier because those who already qualified for the Weekend league through achieving Gold 3 or higher wouldn't be entering these Daily Knockout tournaments and the only players left to play these would be those who hadn't qualified
  • Fifa92i
    169 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    git gud
  • Lokoplovdiv
    473 posts Sunday League Hero
    I am gold 3 / 2 player and for me they are very easy. I win every single dko last 2 months using no more than 3 attempts.
  • Jimmyb83
    1163 posts Professional
    edwardv93 wrote: »
    Earlier on in the year I used to qualify regularly however due to the rewards on Fifa 17 following TOTS I haven'g played Weekend league in over 2 months. I'm missing out because the qualification process is open to competetive players who have probably already qualified. Just for the TOTS rewards. EA need to have the TOTS rewards in a seperated tournament. And only allow players who haven't qualified to play in the Weekend League Knock out tournament

    That's far too much sense for EA Sports to process.
  • DaveSaves
    20137 posts Club Captain
    They haven't done it well at all. It's harder to qualify these last few weeks because people want the card.

    It's even worse that they make it possible to win it twice as good people are doing that just to discard/SBC it
  • Matt_Cornwall
    3952 posts National Call-Up
    You can't really compare winning 4 games in a row in the tournament to the WL though as you'll more than likely be playing easier games apart from the final.

    I do agree the tournaments should be separated out for rewards and qualification. I'll be curious what EA do in 18.
  • WildaF3niX
    2070 posts Fans' Favourite
    Won it on first attempt without any problems, guy in final rage quitted, then someone from twitch asked me to win it for him and got him again(played some c who used attr cards on all players, even tots...)
  • Mr_footballer1
    4232 posts National Call-Up
    But you are winning 90 rated cards, I see loads of people using these cards in their main teams in weekend league, so imo they should be relatively hard to get. However in all honesty, it is not that difficult, you get 20 attempts.

    I do think EA should have an alternative to weekend league for players who can't qualify. Call it casual league with reduced prizes and weekend league proper qualification for the top tiers
  • edwardv93
    62 posts Park Captain
    But you are winning 90 rated cards, I see loads of people using these cards in their main teams in weekend league, so imo they should be relatively hard to get. However in all honesty, it is not that difficult, you get 20 attempts.

    I do think EA should have an alternative to weekend league for players who can't qualify. Call it casual league with reduced prizes and weekend league proper qualification for the top tiers

    I do agree that winning 4 games in a row before hasn't bee n that difficult. However I recently find that due to the TOTS reeards it has been increasingly more difficult. I've reached the final for the tournament numurous times. I do lose on the final and just don't have the time during the week to start the tournament again and give it another go.
  • edwardv93
    62 posts Park Captain
    DaveSaves wrote: »
    They haven't done it well at all. It's harder to qualify these last few weeks because people want the card.

    It's even worse that they make it possible to win it twice as good people are doing that just to discard/SBC it

    They just need to do a seperate tournament for the TOTS rewards. I think maybe a knockout tournament that has the restricitions for the specific league would have been a better idea. I.E if you want to win the TOTS pulisic you have to have a full sqaud of Bundesliga players. Rather than merging the TOTs rewards to weekend qualification. That way you're either competing for the Card or Qualification
  • Hitman_Hatton
    14382 posts Has That Special Something
    edwardv93 wrote: »
    But you are winning 90 rated cards, I see loads of people using these cards in their main teams in weekend league, so imo they should be relatively hard to get. However in all honesty, it is not that difficult, you get 20 attempts.

    I do think EA should have an alternative to weekend league for players who can't qualify. Call it casual league with reduced prizes and weekend league proper qualification for the top tiers

    I do agree that winning 4 games in a row before hasn't bee n that difficult. However I recently find that due to the TOTS reeards it has been increasingly more difficult. I've reached the final for the tournament numurous times. I do lose on the final and just don't have the time during the week to start the tournament again and give it another go.

    You only have enough time during the week to play four games?
  • Ofthewelsh
    3568 posts National Call-Up
    WildaF3niX wrote: »
    Won it on first attempt without any problems, guy in final rage quitted, then someone from twitch asked me to win it for him and got him again(played some c who used attr cards on all players, even tots...)

    Just because you're being matched up with easy wins, it doesn't mean everybody is. Somebody with a high ELO rating isn't generally going to get matched with someone who doesn't know how to play.
    But you are winning 90 rated cards, I see loads of people using these cards in their main teams in weekend league, so imo they should be relatively hard to get. However in all honesty, it is not that difficult, you get 20 attempts.

    I do think EA should have an alternative to weekend league for players who can't qualify. Call it casual league with reduced prizes and weekend league proper qualification for the top tiers

    Again, matchmaking plays a part, and many don't have the time to sit through 20 attempts.
    Your first point is exactly the problem here though. There are people who just want to qualify for the weekend league, and aren't that bothered by the card. The pats become very difficult for many. It would have been fairer to make the cards available via a separate tournament in my opinion, but they removed the provision in game.

    Before some scrub tells me to git gud, and tells me they stroll through the tournament, I write this as somebody who generally has had no issue qualifying when I choose to do so. I do sympathise with those still toiling away, trying to get their foot in the WL door. Once you're in, in my experience, getting 18 wins is no more difficult than the daily tournament.
  • nathswfc
    1949 posts Play-Off Hero
    i find they get easier every weekend. won it first attempt again every game like 4-5 0 and im a gold 1 / borderline elite 3 player
  • Mossup
    1385 posts Professional
    edited June 2017
    I have only qualified for the weekend league a couple of times but I can say it is significantly easier than qualifying. Largely because slipping up once costs you big.
    I also have far too little time in the week to try and try again, so it is often the case that if I can't qualify in the first 7-10 games, I'm forced to miss out that weekend.

    It's a shame because I love the competitive league aspect and obviously the potential rewards.
    It'd be better if they sacked off the standard league, brought back cups and ran the champions weekend league as a fully ranked system.
  • PelzyWelzy
    10626 posts Has That Special Something
    edited June 2017
    Before I stopped playing altogether I definitely noticed an increase in difficulty and competivness in the DKT. Though I did win Siggy, Marqinhos (2nd attempt that one) and Pulisic the games were by no means easy.

    More often than not had very tough games in the earlier rounds. Even poor players who go ultra d and counter from the off are tough to beat. In fact I found the DKT harder than the WL itself (usually finish anywhere from E3 to G2).. there's just no room for error. In WL you can have a few bad games and shrug them off.. in these competitions one bad game and you're out.

    With the game the shambles it's in getting any consistency over four straight games is a tough ask.

    Not tried for the Nacho Fernandez card and doubt I will. Would probably win it eventually but I just can't be bothered with this game right now. Every time I give it a chance and come back the gameplay is as bad as ever.. can't remember the last time i had a match and actually enjoyed It, even when winning.
  • Ofthewelsh
    3568 posts National Call-Up
    PelzyWelzy wrote: »
    Before I stopped playing altogether I definitely noticed an increase in difficulty and competivness in the DKT. Though I did win Siggy, Marqinhos (2nd attempt that one) and Pulisic the games were by no means easy.

    More often than not had very tough games in the earlier rounds. Even poor players who go ultra d and counter from the off are tough to beat. In fact I found the DKT harder than the WL itself (usually finish anywhere from E3 to G2).. there's just no room for error. In WL you can have a few bad games and shrug them off.. in these competitions one bad game and you're out.

    With the game the shambles it's in getting any consistency over four straight games is a tough ask.

    Not tried for the Nacho Fernandez card and doubt I will. Would probably win it eventually but I just can't be bothered with this game right now. Every time I give it a chance and come back the gameplay is as bad as ever.. can't remember the last time i had a match and actually enjoyed It, even when winning.

    Yeah, I've not been enjoying recently either, win or lose. I think the lack of consistent game play is a big part of that. I'm hardly playing at all at the minute
  • Andyh60
    3355 posts National Call-Up
    Yes so blatent that since you get TOTS cards for winning DKO it has become a lot harder to win that hence qualify for weekend league. Whole thing has been amazing idea and probably the best fifa has had in one game to the next but ever since day one I feel it should offer something for EVERYONE which at moment it doesn't hence if you don't qualify weekends are pointless for UT players.

    For me need to merge seasons/FUT Champs.
    Leagues run Monday-Sunday say 50 or 60 or however many games.
    Then based on wins you qualify for respective KO tournament the following week for then respective prizes.

    You have say upto I dunno, 8 entries in KO and your best performance gives you respective prize (like draft) but along with that from week 2 you also have to play leagues for next weeks KO.

    Therefore whatever level you get to in week 2 you then play similar opponents in the league and maybe have a bit more coins per game (like difficulty on single mode challenge) for playing at that higher level and you just keep going like that.

    This way everyone has lots to play for all of the time.
  • Keano
    20670 posts Club Captain
    The TOTS reward card makes more people try & play in a worse play just to get the win. Doesn't really help those who struggle qualifying, but EA arn't catering to those, they're catering to competitive fifa now.
  • edwardv93
    62 posts Park Captain


    You only have enough time during the week to play four games?[/quote]

    I have time in the evening to play a fair few games. But each game takes around 20 minutes to play. If you play 4 in a row its around 1 hour 20 minutes. If I lose just 1 game you have to start the whole process again. If you are lucky and win the tournament on your 1st or 2nd attempt. You can finish in reasonable time. It basically leaves me no room for error to complete a tournament in the evening.
  • Currieman
    5043 posts Big Money Move
    DaveSaves wrote: »
    They haven't done it well at all. It's harder to qualify these last few weeks because people want the card.

    It's even worse that they make it possible to win it twice as good people are doing that just to discard/SBC it

    Bang on the money.

    Before TOTS I think I'd played the DKO once before. Since TOTS I've been playing it every week just for the cards.

    They really should've done a separate tournament for these cards. Whether that tourney gave you WL access is up for debate but they should've left the DKO as it was I think.
  • pittphan
    3023 posts National Call-Up
    I'm a D1 and gold 1/elite player and usually win the qual tourney on the first try. For those that struggle, just keep with it... if you are good enough to make the WL, then you will win it eventually.
  • edwardv93
    62 posts Park Captain
    pittphan wrote: »
    I'm a D1 and gold 1/elite player and usually win the qual tourney on the first try. For those that struggle, just keep with it... if you are good enough to make the WL, then you will win it eventually.

    I agree practice does help massively. Since the introduction fl the WL it took me a good few months before I was able to complete the Knockout tournament and qualify. Spamming divisions helped me get better. My issue is with the new TOTs rewards which make it harder. However as these are not going away, the only way forward is to keep at it. :)
  • Edu
    7528 posts League Winner
    I don't have any problem. always qualify on 1st or 2nd try.
    Change your location to US, it may help you.
  • Heppers
    3503 posts National Call-Up
    edwardv93 wrote: »
    Does anyone else think the recent weekend league qualifications have been stupidly hard to qualify?
    I don'y consider myself a great fifa player. When I do play weekend league I usually finish around Silver 1/Gold 3. Which statistically is around 17/40. Like I said it's not a great record however... I don't think these qualification tournaments open up enough people to be able to play weekend league regualrly. If I were to win a tournament it would mean winning 4 games in a row. Which means if I were to do that in weekend league it would return a record of around 35/40 or more. Which is totally unrealistic. I also think the recent TOTS rewards for this competition have ruined the qualification process for Weekend league. Players who wouldn't normally play this tournament as they will already have qualification for Weekend league are now playing the tournament and knocking out players who haven't qualified just for these rewards

    You're just bad at the game. In WL you're not taking into account that you face players based off your ELO rating. If you're currently in Silver 1, you're likely to face others also at Silver 1. The DKO tournament is ❤️❤️❤️❤️ easy to win. I tend to face weak opponents in every round because you get crap players beating other crap players to get through each round. WL is the best of the best. You still get a few crap players, but not many
  • Betrus
    1190 posts Professional
    I just find the gameplay awful. Impossible to win decent players when you have a 2-second input delay and your opponent doesn't. This may well be the 1st DKO TOTS player I won't receive as the lag is just too much.
  • Mr.Spireite
    1694 posts Play-Off Hero
    Love the "I am gold 3 Elite 1 and consider myself average and usually qualify on one attempt"

    :/
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