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  • El_Nino
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    Stlducks wrote: »
    El_Nino wrote: »
    Stlducks wrote: »
    El_Nino wrote: »
    Stlducks wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »

    Obviously, only 2 clubs that could afford him.

    What? There’s a few others that could do, Chelsea/United undoubtedly could(not sure messi would go but still) Inter/Juve could do too if they move Laturo/Ronaldo on.

    There’s definitely more than two teams capable of getting him.

    I don't think Chelsea can given all the other signings this window. No way they won't be breaking FFP, right? United are struggling with Sancho and Woodward complained about lack of funds due to COVID before. I honestly don't think he's lying. The club is not run well, they bring in a lot but they also overpay a lot.

    Of course other clubs could afford Messi but it would realistically mean they would have to break up the club to do it. PSG and Man City can do it while still keeping the team mostly as is. You can do that when you have countries backing you.

    Are we still pretending FFP even counts anymore? It’s a joke, there’s a thousand and one loop holes.
    You might have a point on United, equally it’s more speculation, so who knows.

    Tbf Inter/Juve wouldn’t need to break up a team at all, both would only need one outgoing to bring one(Messi) in imo.

    While I’m making the point more teams could get him, I do agree it’s most likely he ends up at PSG or City tbf.

    I do agree FFP is a joke but I would think Chelsea want to stay clear of any possible issues with their recent ban. But then again, their owner has a way of getting out of things (not football related) so he could always pull strings.

    I'm against a salary cap in the Premier League but I would like to see something better than FFP to balance the league as a whole a bit.

    I’m good with FFP in principle, it needs clearer rules, and a governing board that aren’t terrified of implementing it.

    As a rugby league fan(a sport with a salary cap) a salary cap in the Prem is a bad idea, in Rugby league the salary cap in england is lower than Australia, and therefore by default the English league pales in comparison.

    A salary cap would have to be world wide to work, but it just wouldn’t be do able worldwide, FFP can work with much better governing of it imo.
  • WryLucky
    7234 posts Big Money Move
    FFP once again proving to be a joke.
  • Mike
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    WryLucky wrote: »
    FFP once again proving to be a joke.
    It’s not about FFP, you’re just worried that we’re going to dominate
  • CFCsjmishra
    10777 posts Has That Special Something
    Mike wrote: »
    WryLucky wrote: »
    FFP once again proving to be a joke.
    It’s not about FFP, you’re just worried that we’re going to dominate

    we are worried about that anyway
  • Stlducks
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    Per the Athletic, City want Messi but Pep and other City higher ups who used to work at Barca do not want to be the guys who take Messi from Barca so they are waiting to see if he forces a free release.
  • dannyboy
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    Welcome, Messi
  • Mike
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    Ain’t gonna happen unfortunately. Well just be left with that bumbling fool Koulibaly
  • El_Nino
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    Mike wrote: »
    Ain’t gonna happen unfortunately. Well just be left with that bumbling fool Koulibaly

    Really don’t think there’s much chance of it happening?
  • Mike
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    El_Nino wrote: »
    Mike wrote: »
    Ain’t gonna happen unfortunately. Well just be left with that bumbling fool Koulibaly

    Really don’t think there’s much chance of it happening?
    Low key I think there's a really good chance, but I find it hard seeing Messi anywhere other than Barca. I think he's just playing politics
  • El_Nino
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    Mike wrote: »
    El_Nino wrote: »
    Mike wrote: »
    Ain’t gonna happen unfortunately. Well just be left with that bumbling fool Koulibaly

    Really don’t think there’s much chance of it happening?
    Low key I think there's a really good chance, but I find it hard seeing Messi anywhere other than Barca. I think he's just playing politics

    It’s a guessing game really as to if Messi really wants to leave or if he wants to force changes at Barca.

    If he does leave you the favourites imo, Pep/Aguero, great chance to win Prem/CL, and should pay as well as anyone. PSG could get him and the likes of United/Chelsea are possible but not as likely.
  • Cyodine
    6941 posts Big Money Move
    Messi is better off leaving. Barca need a entire rebuild and better club management. At the same time, is it really worth to build around Messi or simply just let him go/sell him and start a new project? If he goes to City, then at least he can just slot into an already great team, with plenty of quality to surround him.

    Like @Mike said, I believe he's just playing politics, either trying to force some changes but I don't see Barto leaving and potentially having to pay Barca's loses. I'm just happy for some new transfer drama, it's been boring these last few seasons.
  • Wyojasond
    19463 posts World Class
    Mike wrote: »
    El_Nino wrote: »
    Mike wrote: »
    Ain’t gonna happen unfortunately. Well just be left with that bumbling fool Koulibaly

    Really don’t think there’s much chance of it happening?
    Low key I think there's a really good chance, but I find it hard seeing Messi anywhere other than Barca. I think he's just playing politics

    In the end I agree with this. City always have the ability to lure anyone there, but I can’t see Messi anywhere but Barca. Didn’t he pull a similar thing with the Argentine national team? Retired til they made some massive changes and then came back? Could be totally wrong on that 🤷‍♂️
  • Gervonta
    4235 posts National Call-Up
    He isn’t worth the hassle at this stage tbh. He’s 33 so his peak years have gone by, whilst still a top player is it worth the hassle of having to pay stupid money if his contract clause expired so you pay a massive transfer fee , even without the fee he’ll still command massive wages he’s on like 500k a week at Barca isn’t he? Then you’ve got to build the team around him with players he likes. For what? 2/3 years of service? Really isn’t worth it imo probably be unpopular opinion with some but that’s just the way I see it.
  • Mike
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    It is worth it, whatever way you try and spin it. It’ll elevate us to a new level, will let us renegotiate all our sponsorship deals, and not to mention he’s the best player of all time, 33 or not.
  • Ahmer50x
    31657 posts National Team Captain
    Mike wrote: »
    It is worth it, whatever way you try and spin it. It’ll elevate us to a new level, will let us renegotiate all our sponsorship deals, and not to mention he’s the best player of all time, 33 or not.

    If he’s not the top scorer in the league though, be prepared for headlines like “Messi costs City 10x per goal what Salah costs Liverpool”
  • Mike
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    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Mike wrote: »
    It is worth it, whatever way you try and spin it. It’ll elevate us to a new level, will let us renegotiate all our sponsorship deals, and not to mention he’s the best player of all time, 33 or not.

    If he’s not the top scorer in the league though, be prepared for headlines like “Messi costs City 10x per goal what Salah costs Liverpool”
    Who cares about headlines? We’ve had negative headlines for the last 12 years, doesn’t make a difference
  • Gervonta
    4235 posts National Call-Up
    Mike wrote: »
    It is worth it, whatever way you try and spin it. It’ll elevate us to a new level, will let us renegotiate all our sponsorship deals, and not to mention he’s the best player of all time, 33 or not.

    Your books are already cooked you don’t exactly need to negotiate your sponsorship deals when you’re basically transferring your money from one account into another.
  • Mike
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    Gervonta wrote: »
    Mike wrote: »
    It is worth it, whatever way you try and spin it. It’ll elevate us to a new level, will let us renegotiate all our sponsorship deals, and not to mention he’s the best player of all time, 33 or not.

    Your books are already cooked you don’t exactly need to negotiate your sponsorship deals when you’re basically transferring your money from one account into another.
    Prove it
  • Gervonta
    4235 posts National Call-Up
    Mike wrote: »
    Gervonta wrote: »
    Mike wrote: »
    It is worth it, whatever way you try and spin it. It’ll elevate us to a new level, will let us renegotiate all our sponsorship deals, and not to mention he’s the best player of all time, 33 or not.

    Your books are already cooked you don’t exactly need to negotiate your sponsorship deals when you’re basically transferring your money from one account into another.
    Prove it

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-6366745/amp/Man-City-secretly-paid-Roberto-Mancini-double-contracted-wage.html

    We all know a little brown envelope was passed to avoid UCL ban.
  • Mike
    10550 posts Has That Special Something
    Gervonta wrote: »
    Mike wrote: »
    Gervonta wrote: »
    Mike wrote: »
    It is worth it, whatever way you try and spin it. It’ll elevate us to a new level, will let us renegotiate all our sponsorship deals, and not to mention he’s the best player of all time, 33 or not.

    Your books are already cooked you don’t exactly need to negotiate your sponsorship deals when you’re basically transferring your money from one account into another.
    Prove it

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-6366745/amp/Man-City-secretly-paid-Roberto-Mancini-double-contracted-wage.html

    We all know a little brown envelope was passed to avoid UCL ban.
    Daily Mail your source, CAS is mine. Case closed, my friend.
  • Gervonta
    4235 posts National Call-Up
    Mike wrote: »
    Gervonta wrote: »
    Mike wrote: »
    Gervonta wrote: »
    Mike wrote: »
    It is worth it, whatever way you try and spin it. It’ll elevate us to a new level, will let us renegotiate all our sponsorship deals, and not to mention he’s the best player of all time, 33 or not.

    Your books are already cooked you don’t exactly need to negotiate your sponsorship deals when you’re basically transferring your money from one account into another.
    Prove it

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-6366745/amp/Man-City-secretly-paid-Roberto-Mancini-double-contracted-wage.html

    We all know a little brown envelope was passed to avoid UCL ban.
    Daily Mail your source, CAS is mine. Case closed, my friend.

    In one agreement with Etihad Airways, it is claimed a staggering £59.5million of the £67.5m was essentially financed by Mansour.

    Day two of the investigation divulged details on an alleged secret project called 'Longbow', created to shift the cost of player image rights to a third-party.

    Football clubs are obliged to pay their athletes for the right to use their image, be it in posters in the club shop or advertising for new shirts, but it is alleged that Manchester City farmed out the rights in a bid to save spending costs.

    It is claimed that a marketing company called 'Fordham Sports Management', allegedly steered by Jonathan Rowland and his father David, bought the image rights, but were secretly fed £11million a year by Man City's owner Sheik Mansour.

  • Cyodine
    6941 posts Big Money Move
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Mike wrote: »
    It is worth it, whatever way you try and spin it. It’ll elevate us to a new level, will let us renegotiate all our sponsorship deals, and not to mention he’s the best player of all time, 33 or not.

    If he’s not the top scorer in the league though, be prepared for headlines like “Messi costs City 10x per goal what Salah costs Liverpool”

    Heh... If they win the CL with Messi then that's the only headline that will matter. I figure Messi will pay for himself if he signs with City with all of the renegotiated sponsor deals and sales. Really no downside of City signing Messi if the opportunity presents.
  • Mike
    10550 posts Has That Special Something
    Gervonta wrote: »
    Mike wrote: »
    Gervonta wrote: »
    Mike wrote: »
    Gervonta wrote: »
    Mike wrote: »
    It is worth it, whatever way you try and spin it. It’ll elevate us to a new level, will let us renegotiate all our sponsorship deals, and not to mention he’s the best player of all time, 33 or not.

    Your books are already cooked you don’t exactly need to negotiate your sponsorship deals when you’re basically transferring your money from one account into another.
    Prove it

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-6366745/amp/Man-City-secretly-paid-Roberto-Mancini-double-contracted-wage.html

    We all know a little brown envelope was passed to avoid UCL ban.
    Daily Mail your source, CAS is mine. Case closed, my friend.

    In one agreement with Etihad Airways, it is claimed a staggering £59.5million of the £67.5m was essentially financed by Mansour.

    Day two of the investigation divulged details on an alleged secret project called 'Longbow', created to shift the cost of player image rights to a third-party.

    Football clubs are obliged to pay their athletes for the right to use their image, be it in posters in the club shop or advertising for new shirts, but it is alleged that Manchester City farmed out the rights in a bid to save spending costs.

    It is claimed that a marketing company called 'Fordham Sports Management', allegedly steered by Jonathan Rowland and his father David, bought the image rights, but were secretly fed £11million a year by Man City's owner Sheik Mansour.
    You are aware the we got exonerated for every claim against us, mainly the Football Leaks accusations? And here you are quoting Football Leaks unironically, class
  • Ahmer50x
    31657 posts National Team Captain


    Lequipe say PSG can't afford him.
    Jamie Jackson has ruled out United.
    CfBayern has ruled out Bayern.
    Fabrizio has ruled out Juventus.

    Really feels like its either City or stay at Barca atm
  • Pxul_
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  • El_Nino
    10881 posts Has That Special Something
    Ahmer50x wrote: »


    Lequipe say PSG can't afford him.
    Jamie Jackson has ruled out United.
    CfBayern has ruled out Bayern.
    Fabrizio has ruled out Juventus.

    Really feels like its either City or stay at Barca atm

    Not seeing anyone rule out Chelsea 👀

    Lampard will have a quick word with him and Messi will be begging to join for 200k a week 😉
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