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Lillo86
118 posts Has Potential To Be Special
As usual the demo version is very good.

I usually play Fifa on Full Manual controls, slow speed, legendary difficulty and it's nearly perfect.
The only problem is that every team play almost the same way.

But the REAL PROBLEM is:
As soon as the kids realize they can't score so easily, the skill moves don't work everytime and can't do zigzag dribbling anymore, EA will change the game.
The day-one game will be different and on December "dribblepigs" and "longshotswines" will be back.

Stay with the demo and wait for Fifa 18.

Comments

  • Rumplefish
    18748 posts World Class
    But you'll say the same come FIFA 18, so should we just play FIFA demo every year and forget about the full game?
  • RadioShaq
    15400 posts Moderator
    The demo is all about pace and through balls. You can tell how bad it will be for online fut by the capture event when everyone uses 90 plus pace players.
  • lordCriper
    313 posts Sunday League Hero
    This is the reason I'll wait a month or two this year, let EA patch it up before buying.
  • Lillo86
    118 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    RadioShaq wrote: »
    The demo is all about pace and through balls. You can tell how bad it will be for online fut by the capture event when everyone uses 90 plus pace players.

    My big concern was about this game would have been like a Fifa 15 3.0.
    Luckily it is not, at least in my opinion.
    Sure, I'll give a try with assisted controls, but playing on full manual and slow speed is another story.

    The game is not about pace...it's about phisicality.
    In some ways it seems even more slow than Fifa 16 thanks to the new player positioning on defense that can prevent zigzg dribbling.
    If you can defend properly, pacey players are not that difficult to beat.

    So far so good.
    Unfortunately it's just a demo.


  • Lillo86
    118 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    Rumplefish wrote: »
    But you'll say the same come FIFA 18, so should we just play FIFA demo every year and forget about the full game?

    Eheh, good point.

    But as @lordCriper said in this case we would better wait for some patch. Then if the feedback is positive, we can buy it.
  • lordCriper
    313 posts Sunday League Hero
    edited September 2016
    @lillo86 I feel pre orders have made the gaming industry lazy. At the point they have enough preorders to cover their expences plus some, developing quality aint that important anymore. The same goes for season passes, why do we buy stuff we have no idea what they are? :p

    Imagine this; No one preorders Fifa 18. EA then actually have to deliver a quality product, otherwise they'll risk getting bad reviews and sales might not be high enough. :o

    Sorry, got slightly off topic there...
  • RadioShaq
    15400 posts Moderator
    You will see once it goes online everyone will think there was a speed patch. Bateson scored mostly on pace through balls same with kazooie. Thats them trying for good gameplay mostly and pace just worked without them abusing it.
  • Thomas
    3044 posts National Call-Up
    That is why i'll wait till december/january sale ;)

    Unless they let the game be something similar to the demo. Gonna wait till after the first few updates for sure
  • THJ71
    747 posts Semi-Pro
    edited September 2016
    Wait until the EA Developers kids have played it and start moaning that they cannot go on a 90 minute speedy dribble fest. Then said kiddies moan to daddy ea developer and it will change in a patch on October 1st

    On a serious note though, it seems a fairly lazy piece of work again by EA considering the mess of recent years with the only change being the Journey Story added

    Online will be the big test as Fifa 16 was absolute garbage online
  • I want to buy the game,but I dont have enough money.I already pre ordered Forza 3 and BF1 so I will wait 3 months before buying it.
  • Lillo86
    118 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    RadioShaq wrote: »
    You will see once it goes online everyone will think there was a speed patch. Bateson scored mostly on pace through balls same with kazooie. Thats them trying for good gameplay mostly and pace just worked without them abusing it.

    Yep. I remember the terrible experience by playing FUT.
    This is why I enjoyed H2H with full-manual controls the most.

  • Lillo86
    118 posts Has Potential To Be Special

    @THJ71 @lordCriper

    Absolutely agree with both of you.
  • alencrnalic
    45 posts Park Captain
    I cant wait to see FIFA 19, remember how FIFA 09 was good in previous decade...
  • t_hud_
    34 posts Last Pick at the Park
    I completely agree with OP. The demo plays very well! A great FIFA game, but once the kids start wanting more pace and spee up gameplay it will be patched.... Sad sad truth. It happened to '16
  • I SiR MartY I
    5682 posts Big Money Move
    football.gif

    Dribble pigs training ahead of Fifa 17 :D
  • Robocat
    581 posts Sunday League Hero
    look at the skill moves that little guy has. ball roll, drag back, step over. awesome clip thanks for posting it made my day
  • lszanto
    336 posts Sunday League Hero
    Lillo86 wrote: »
    As usual the demo version is very good.

    I usually play Fifa on Full Manual controls, slow speed, legendary difficulty and it's nearly perfect.
    The only problem is that every team play almost the same way.

    But the REAL PROBLEM is:
    As soon as the kids realize they can't score so easily, the skill moves don't work everytime and can't do zigzag dribbling anymore, EA will change the game.
    The day-one game will be different and on December "dribblepigs" and "longshotswines" will be back.

    Stay with the demo and wait for Fifa 18.

    How do you stand play against the computer? I've played 2 games in the demo and they've mustered a grand total of 1 shot on target(world class). The AI literally just passes the ball around the back, wins stupid freekicks and doesn't attack at all.

  • Marrone
    97 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    Lillo86 wrote: »
    As usual the demo version is very good.

    I usually play Fifa on Full Manual controls, slow speed, legendary difficulty and it's nearly perfect.
    The only problem is that every team play almost the same way.

    But the REAL PROBLEM is:
    As soon as the kids realize they can't score so easily, the skill moves don't work everytime and can't do zigzag dribbling anymore, EA will change the game.
    The day-one game will be different and on December "dribblepigs" and "longshotswines" will be back.

    Stay with the demo and wait for Fifa 18.

    For EA 1 happy customer = 60 euros, 10 unhappy customers = 600 euro

    What do you think EA cares more about? Money or customers? Unfortunately very easy pick....
  • Lillo86
    118 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    edited September 2016
    lszanto wrote: »
    Lillo86 wrote: »
    As usual the demo version is very good.

    I usually play Fifa on Full Manual controls, slow speed, legendary difficulty and it's nearly perfect.
    The only problem is that every team play almost the same way.

    But the REAL PROBLEM is:
    As soon as the kids realize they can't score so easily, the skill moves don't work everytime and can't do zigzag dribbling anymore, EA will change the game.
    The day-one game will be different and on December "dribblepigs" and "longshotswines" will be back.

    Stay with the demo and wait for Fifa 18.

    How do you stand play against the computer? I've played 2 games in the demo and they've mustered a grand total of 1 shot on target(world class). The AI literally just passes the ball around the back, wins stupid freekicks and doesn't attack at all.

    Try Legendaty then...

    Anyway this game lacks variety in playstyle yet.
    Almost all teams play Tiki-taka...boring and annoying.
    They don't care about offline modes.
    They want us to play FUT.

    Very sad.

  • Lillo86
    118 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    It seems like a supposed update of the demo worsened the game.
    Can anyone confirm this?
  • Update was apparently for lag issues the gameplay is the same
  • Shaanxz
    20960 posts Club Captain
    Lillo86 wrote: »
    It seems like a supposed update of the demo worsened the game.
    Can anyone confirm this?

    Nothing has changed apart from the sensitivity of penalties. Me and my brother played it two hours last night and that's the only thing we noticed
  • Lillo86
    118 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    edited September 2016
    Shaanxz wrote: »
    Lillo86 wrote: »
    It seems like a supposed update of the demo worsened the game.
    Can anyone confirm this?

    Nothing has changed apart from the sensitivity of penalties. Me and my brother played it two hours last night and that's the only thing we noticed

    Are you on XboxOne?
    I'm asking you because it seems that XB1 version was updated at the moment.
    No PC nor PS4 yet.
  • RTG101
    248 posts Sunday League Hero
    Already asked for my refund.....
    EA are finished!
    Making players look sweaty at half time is just crap when they can't sort the feel of the game.
  • GoonerSoldier
    366 posts Sunday League Hero
    HAHAHA these kids can't handle full manual. As soon as you question tactical defending they claim you need SKILL to defend. But as soon as you question FULL MANUAL and AUTO pass/shot they hide or stay away because they know they lack any sort of skill.
  • Lillo86
    118 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    Wait for feedbacks guys.
    If it's true this game is Fifa 15 3.0 don't buy it then.

    Pinball FX2 is still the best pinball game.
  • Already paid and pre ordered 2k17 is here anyway if its that bad but it never really is
  • Lillo86
    118 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    For those EA/Origin Acces customers, can you please confirm if the full game has turned into a ping pong game in comparison to the demo version?

    Thanks.
  • Alexunited94
    35 posts Last Pick at the Park
    I swear I read the same comment every year. YAWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
  • Played early access. Game speed didn't seem to bad. Until I played my first game in the rain, the whole thing seemed to speed up, players running around like maniacs, it was bloody awful. I can't put my finger on it but this game seems so scripted, don't feel like I'm totally incontrol of my players, passes go were I wasn't aiming, funny enough, when I want my players to sprint they just seem to be jogging. Did not enjoy playing this game I just don't feel like I'm really in control of my players. For gods sake how many years is it going to take EA before we get a real football game. Year after year and no improvement just minor changes like new penalties and corners and the actual game play slipping backwards.Money money money FUT packs that's all they are interested in. Game Score 4/10. I was playing manager mode by the way. Alex Hunter, who gives a **** about that scripted story, I want a proper futty sim. Which I ain't seeing.
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