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  • LFC Simon 98
    18696 posts World Class
    Argie8 wrote: »
    Yeah TAA is widely considered the best RB in the league nowadays. Not heard much about AWB this season though

    That’s cause Trent has a higher tackle % so the United fans have nothing to hold over TAA
  • arsenalap
    6823 posts Big Money Move
    Trent and Pereira are the top 2 atm.
  • Ahmer50x
    20890 posts Club Captain
    edited November 2019
    Argie8 wrote: »
    Yeah TAA is widely considered the best RB in the league nowadays. Not heard much about AWB this season though

    That’s cause Trent has a higher tackle % so the United fans have nothing to hold over TAA

    TAA: 15 tackles, 80% success rate, 30/85 duels won (35%)
    AWB: 54 tackles, 65% success rate, 79/122 duels won (65%)

    Think the sheer volume of tackles may have something to do with that :joy:
  • Ahmer50x
    20890 posts Club Captain
    To put those numbers in perspective for you, AWB has attempted more tackles than your entire starting back 4 vs City have all season COMBINED :lol:
  • LFC Simon 98
    18696 posts World Class
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Argie8 wrote: »
    Yeah TAA is widely considered the best RB in the league nowadays. Not heard much about AWB this season though

    That’s cause Trent has a higher tackle % so the United fans have nothing to hold over TAA

    TAA: 15 tackles, 80% success rate, 30/85 duels won (35%)
    AWB: 54 tackles, 65% success rate, 79/122 duels won (65%)

    Think the sheer volume of tackles may have something to do with that :joy:

    So you admit he’s better? Thanks xox

    In all seriousness Bernardo got a 1 game ban so missed the Chelsea game
  • SDoofus
    6430 posts Big Money Move
    edited November 2019
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Argie8 wrote: »
    Yeah TAA is widely considered the best RB in the league nowadays. Not heard much about AWB this season though

    That’s cause Trent has a higher tackle % so the United fans have nothing to hold over TAA

    TAA: 15 tackles, 80% success rate, 30/85 duels won (35%)
    AWB: 54 tackles, 65% success rate, 79/122 duels won (65%)

    Think the sheer volume of tackles may have something to do with that :joy:

    Now do the same for crosses vs successful crosses ;)

    Trent should have vastly more, so in theory, AWB's percentage should be higher, right?
  • LFC Simon 98
    18696 posts World Class
    Actually looked it up out of interest and our squad has 186 tackles between them. We simply don’t engage 1v1 because we play a high line and our players all mark space instead of opposing players.

    Hence it’s a dead comparison
  • ChrisLFC
    7240 posts Big Money Move
    Paolo Maldini: "If I have to make a tackle then I have already made a mistake."

    Xabi Alonso - "I don't think tackling is a quality. It is... something you have to resort to, not a characteristic of your game. I can't get into my head that football development would educate tackling as a quality, something to learn, to teach, a characteristic of your play. How can that be a way of seeing the game? I just don't understand football in those terms. Tackling is a [last] resort, and you will need it, but it isn't a quality to aspire to, a definition. It's hard to change because it's so rooted in the English football culture, but I don't understand it."

  • LFC Simon 98
    18696 posts World Class
    ChrisLFC wrote: »
    Paolo Maldini: "If I have to make a tackle then I have already made a mistake."

    Xabi Alonso - "I don't think tackling is a quality. It is... something you have to resort to, not a characteristic of your game. I can't get into my head that football development would educate tackling as a quality, something to learn, to teach, a characteristic of your play. How can that be a way of seeing the game? I just don't understand football in those terms. Tackling is a [last] resort, and you will need it, but it isn't a quality to aspire to, a definition. It's hard to change because it's so rooted in the English football culture, but I don't understand it."

    Lmao

    Tbf it’s a very good quality to have and AWB is brilliant at it but like I said if your a team who controls most games and plays a high line then you shouldn’t be tackling much because (if your good enough) you shouldn’t have to
  • SDoofus
    6430 posts Big Money Move
    SDoofus wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Argie8 wrote: »
    Yeah TAA is widely considered the best RB in the league nowadays. Not heard much about AWB this season though

    That’s cause Trent has a higher tackle % so the United fans have nothing to hold over TAA

    TAA: 15 tackles, 80% success rate, 30/85 duels won (35%)
    AWB: 54 tackles, 65% success rate, 79/122 duels won (65%)

    Think the sheer volume of tackles may have something to do with that :joy:

    Now do the same for crosses vs successful crosses ;)

    Trent should have vastly more, so in theory, AWB's percentage should be higher, right?

    Wherefore art thou, @Ahmer50x?
  • Ahmer50x
    20890 posts Club Captain
    SDoofus wrote: »
    SDoofus wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Argie8 wrote: »
    Yeah TAA is widely considered the best RB in the league nowadays. Not heard much about AWB this season though

    That’s cause Trent has a higher tackle % so the United fans have nothing to hold over TAA

    TAA: 15 tackles, 80% success rate, 30/85 duels won (35%)
    AWB: 54 tackles, 65% success rate, 79/122 duels won (65%)

    Think the sheer volume of tackles may have something to do with that :joy:

    Now do the same for crosses vs successful crosses ;)

    Trent should have vastly more, so in theory, AWB's percentage should be higher, right?

    Wherefore art thou, Ahmer50x?

    Don't think anyone has ever claimed AWB is a better crosser than TAA mate.

    The claim was made that TAA tackles better and that is what I was addressing.
  • LFC Simon 98
    18696 posts World Class
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    SDoofus wrote: »
    SDoofus wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Argie8 wrote: »
    Yeah TAA is widely considered the best RB in the league nowadays. Not heard much about AWB this season though

    That’s cause Trent has a higher tackle % so the United fans have nothing to hold over TAA

    TAA: 15 tackles, 80% success rate, 30/85 duels won (35%)
    AWB: 54 tackles, 65% success rate, 79/122 duels won (65%)

    Think the sheer volume of tackles may have something to do with that :joy:

    Now do the same for crosses vs successful crosses ;)

    Trent should have vastly more, so in theory, AWB's percentage should be higher, right?

    Wherefore art thou, Ahmer50x?

    Don't think anyone has ever claimed AWB is a better crosser than TAA mate.

    The claim was made that TAA tackles better and that is what I was addressing.

    I don’t think anyone thought I was being serious.

    Interestingly, and I’m not bashing AWB or anything but Trent actually beats him at just about every defensive stat bar tackles. He has a higher % but as you said 12/15 compared to 35/54. But he has more blocks, interceptions, clearances, headed clearances and made less fouls. Although I don’t want to look up how often they’re dribbled past and the app I’m using doesn’t show that.

    Also. Trent has been disposed 5 times this season. That’s phenomenally low. Considering he’s made over 800 passes and has over 1000 touches.
  • SDoofus
    6430 posts Big Money Move
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    SDoofus wrote: »
    SDoofus wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Argie8 wrote: »
    Yeah TAA is widely considered the best RB in the league nowadays. Not heard much about AWB this season though

    That’s cause Trent has a higher tackle % so the United fans have nothing to hold over TAA

    TAA: 15 tackles, 80% success rate, 30/85 duels won (35%)
    AWB: 54 tackles, 65% success rate, 79/122 duels won (65%)

    Think the sheer volume of tackles may have something to do with that :joy:

    Now do the same for crosses vs successful crosses ;)

    Trent should have vastly more, so in theory, AWB's percentage should be higher, right?

    Wherefore art thou, Ahmer50x?

    Don't think anyone has ever claimed AWB is a better crosser than TAA mate.

    The claim was made that TAA tackles better and that is what I was addressing.

    Indeed, but you're saying that AWB attempting vastly more tackles than TAA brings his percentage down.

    So, my friend, in theory, the same should apply for crosses?

    TAA: 135 crosses, with a 23% success rate.

    AWB: 25 crosses, with a 12% success rate.

    :#
  • Ahmer50x
    20890 posts Club Captain
    SDoofus wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    SDoofus wrote: »
    SDoofus wrote: »
    Ahmer50x wrote: »
    Argie8 wrote: »
    Yeah TAA is widely considered the best RB in the league nowadays. Not heard much about AWB this season though

    That’s cause Trent has a higher tackle % so the United fans have nothing to hold over TAA

    TAA: 15 tackles, 80% success rate, 30/85 duels won (35%)
    AWB: 54 tackles, 65% success rate, 79/122 duels won (65%)

    Think the sheer volume of tackles may have something to do with that :joy:

    Now do the same for crosses vs successful crosses ;)

    Trent should have vastly more, so in theory, AWB's percentage should be higher, right?

    Wherefore art thou, Ahmer50x?

    Don't think anyone has ever claimed AWB is a better crosser than TAA mate.

    The claim was made that TAA tackles better and that is what I was addressing.

    Indeed, but you're saying that AWB attempting vastly more tackles than TAA brings his percentage down.

    So, my friend, in theory, the same should apply for crosses?

    TAA: 135 crosses, with a 23% success rate.

    AWB: 25 crosses, with a 12% success rate.

    :#

    I mean, small sample size validity can skew to either extreme so it could also be too low because he's attempted so few but I'm not actually trying to suggest that is the case.

    We all know AWB is a distinctly average crosser. Young, Shaw, Williams, and Dalot are all better than him at it just at United.
  • SDoofus
    6430 posts Big Money Move
    Agreed. Let us make it nice and easy here and accept that TAA > AWB ;)
  • tilen11
    5695 posts Big Money Move
    SDoofus wrote: »
    Agreed. Let us make it nice and easy here and accept that TAA > AWB ;)

    Thats a fact. There was no need for a long discussion. AWB is good but nowhere near TAA.
  • arsenalap
    6823 posts Big Money Move
    I honestly think AWB should move to a DM role. I'm not sure how good his awareness and passing are but I think he could be an animal there.
  • LFC Simon 98
    18696 posts World Class
    I didn’t acc want this debate to spark again. AWB good player. TAA great player

    Sorted
  • SDoofus
    6430 posts Big Money Move
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  • SDoofus
    6430 posts Big Money Move
    edited November 2019
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    It goes all the way down to his neck, ffs.
  • tilen11
    5695 posts Big Money Move
    SDoofus wrote: »
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    It goes all the way down to his neck, ffs.

    Seems Stering isnt a fan of cutting his fingernails.
  • Argie8
    6087 posts Big Money Move
    SDoofus wrote: »
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    It goes all the way down to his neck, ffs.

    what was this from??
  • Cyodine
    2003 posts Fans' Favourite
    Argie8 wrote: »
    SDoofus wrote: »
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    It goes all the way down to his neck, ffs.

    what was this from??

    Snake attack.
  • Littleland95
    17270 posts Moderator
    Wijnaldum injured as well from what I hear.
  • Kellnerr
    3006 posts National Call-Up
    Wijnaldum injured as well from what I hear.

    He's ill, nothing bad :)
  • Littleland95
    17270 posts Moderator
    Kellnerr wrote: »
    Wijnaldum injured as well from what I hear.

    He's ill, nothing bad :)

    Good to hear.
  • LFC Simon 98
    18696 posts World Class
    Hadn’t ever seen anyone but Bolasie do one of those lol
  • SDoofus
    6430 posts Big Money Move
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