5221 Guide - "The Art of Counter-Attacking"

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  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    Shevaelite wrote: »
    The formation is effective but it's basically admitting you are rubbish at the game.

    If everyone used 5atb it would be a very boring game.

    In no way shape or form, you are admitting you are rubbish at the game

    This is exactly the stigma this guide was supposed to challenge
  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    There's nothing wrong with using a formation that is defensively solid
  • Joeyalltheseven
    2388 posts Fans' Favourite
    Will give this a go, could be fun.
    Any suggestions with a Serie A LW?
  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    Will give this a go, could be fun.
    Any suggestions with a Serie A LW?

    I really wanna try IF Insigne, see what he is like there

    But from what I've used, Felipe Anderson is good, as is Keita
  • Joeyalltheseven
    2388 posts Fans' Favourite
    Chris wrote: »
    Will give this a go, could be fun.
    Any suggestions with a Serie A LW?

    I really wanna try IF Insigne, see what he is like there

    But from what I've used, Felipe Anderson is good, as is Keita

    Good stuff, I have Felipe Anderson but can't afford IF Insigne.
    Might try Mandzukic up front with Cuadrado on the other side.
    Guarin and Marchisio in CM.
    Jesus CB Bonucci and De Vrij LCB and RCB.
    Will let you know how I get on with it :)
  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    Chris wrote: »
    Will give this a go, could be fun.
    Any suggestions with a Serie A LW?

    I really wanna try IF Insigne, see what he is like there

    But from what I've used, Felipe Anderson is good, as is Keita

    Good stuff, I have Felipe Anderson but can't afford IF Insigne.
    Might try Mandzukic up front with Cuadrado on the other side.
    Guarin and Marchisio in CM.
    Jesus CB Bonucci and De Vrij LCB and RCB.
    Will let you know how I get on with it :)

    Have fun :tongue:

    There's nothing more satisfying for me on this game, than when I score a perfect counter attack, and with a front 3 like that you should do plenty of that :)
  • Maestro Baller
    35 posts Last Pick at the Park
    In real life this may not be considered sweaty.
    But in fifa, IMO if you use a team like madrid, bayern or lets just say any top 6 teams in the game and use this formation, then you are a coward. I suppose in FUT it's a little different but still applies, coward if you have a great team and use this.

    Nice that you actually put effort into writing this though.
  • maksi
    6608 posts Big Money Move
    with high pressure and ultra attack being so OP and brainless i'm not bothered if somebody calls me a coward

    high pressure wh**** are against it because they can't get a counter attack and easy goals against this formation
  • Maestro Baller
    35 posts Last Pick at the Park
    maksi wrote: »
    with high pressure and ultra attack being so OP and brainless i'm not bothered if somebody calls me a coward


    Well nothing wrong with fighting fire with fire it just means you're same as them, but would you change the formation if you realized you wern't playing that type of player? probably not.

    To each his own, and my own is living with the losses to play the way i enjoy. I have a very bad record and don't care.
  • LawrieC
    272 posts Sunday League Hero
    Chris wrote: »
    There's nothing wrong with using a formation that is defensively solid

    Agreed. I don't even use 5atb but have no problem with it. People are pretty pathetic. They use the most used formations and then complain about the formations other people use. The only people admitting they are "bad" at the game are those who comment saying 5atb lacks skill, as they clearly have a grudge due to being beaten by it.
    Will give this a go, could be fun.
    Any suggestions with a Serie A LW?

    Definitely try Perisic. 4*5* is very nice, great physicality and shot power too.
  • CFC-shazaam
    6327 posts Big Money Move
    edited October 2015
    @Chris would this be the perfect formation to use IF's that have been to changed from mids/wingers to a fullback position e.g. Ashley Young last year lw to lb IF.

    And If so does the formation end up playing more like 3 atb ?
  • FC Intl
    4394 posts National Call-Up
    edited October 2015
    In real life this may not be considered sweaty.
    But in fifa, IMO if you use a team like madrid, bayern or lets just say any top 6 teams in the game and use this formation, then you are a coward. .

    Absolute garbage statement.
  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    @Chris would this be the perfect formation to use IF's that have been to changed from mids/wingers to a fullback position e.g. Ashley Young last year lw to lb IF.

    And If so does the formation end up playing more like 3 atb ?
    Maybe not this formation, but 5212 and 532 definitely suit wingers turned full backs and the full backs tend to make up for the lack of width upfield

    @CFC-shazaam
  • Maestro Baller
    35 posts Last Pick at the Park
    FC Intl wrote: »
    In real life this may not be considered sweaty.
    But in fifa, IMO if you use a team like madrid, bayern or lets just say any top 6 teams in the game and use this formation, then you are a coward. .

    Absolute garbage statement.
    FC Intl wrote: »
    In real life this may not be considered sweaty.
    But in fifa, IMO if you use a team like madrid, bayern or lets just say any top 6 teams in the game and use this formation, then you are a coward. .

    Absolute garbage statement.

    Would be nice if you state why the statement is garbage to help others understand your side, rather than helping your own ego.
  • FC Intl
    4394 posts National Call-Up
    edited October 2015
    FC Intl wrote: »
    In real life this may not be considered sweaty.
    But in fifa, IMO if you use a team like madrid, bayern or lets just say any top 6 teams in the game and use this formation, then you are a coward. .

    Absolute garbage statement.
    FC Intl wrote: »
    In real life this may not be considered sweaty.
    But in fifa, IMO if you use a team like madrid, bayern or lets just say any top 6 teams in the game and use this formation, then you are a coward. .

    Absolute garbage statement.

    Would be nice if you state why the statement is garbage to help others understand your side, rather than helping your own ego.

    @Maestro Baller

    You said people that use 5atb and high rated teams are "cowards", what needs to be explained to you? It's an idiotic, garbage statement to conflate a certain formation with cowardice. Not sure why you're confused as to the reasoning.

    And, my ego? Get a grip. You're coming here telling long time contributing members/mods they are "cowards" for a petty nonsensical reason. It's your ego that needs to be checked. What is it with you ballboys lately. Try some humility.
  • Maestro Baller
    35 posts Last Pick at the Park
    FC Intl wrote: »
    FC Intl wrote: »
    In real life this may not be considered sweaty.
    But in fifa, IMO if you use a team like madrid, bayern or lets just say any top 6 teams in the game and use this formation, then you are a coward. .

    Absolute garbage statement.
    FC Intl wrote: »
    In real life this may not be considered sweaty.
    But in fifa, IMO if you use a team like madrid, bayern or lets just say any top 6 teams in the game and use this formation, then you are a coward. .

    Absolute garbage statement.

    Would be nice if you state why the statement is garbage to help others understand your side, rather than helping your own ego.

    @Maestro Baller

    You said people that use 5atb and high rated teams are "cowards", what needs to be explained to you? It's an idiotic, garbage statement to conflate a certain formation with cowardice. Not sure why you're confused as to the reasoning.

    And, my ego? Get a grip. You're coming here telling long time contributing members/mods they are "cowards" for a petty nonsensical reason. It's your ego that needs to be checked. What is it with you ballboys lately. Try some humility.


    What I said definitely hit you personally. You skipped past the comment that called OP a douche and decided instead to take offense to me saying that I believe it is a coward move to have a formation like this and use madrid against spurs online.

    You must be looking for likes but this isn't facebook.
  • Maestro Baller
    35 posts Last Pick at the Park
    FC Intl wrote: »
    FC Intl wrote: »
    In real life this may not be considered sweaty.
    But in fifa, IMO if you use a team like madrid, bayern or lets just say any top 6 teams in the game and use this formation, then you are a coward. .

    Absolute garbage statement.
    FC Intl wrote: »
    In real life this may not be considered sweaty.
    But in fifa, IMO if you use a team like madrid, bayern or lets just say any top 6 teams in the game and use this formation, then you are a coward. .

    Absolute garbage statement.

    Would be nice if you state why the statement is garbage to help others understand your side, rather than helping your own ego.
  • Maestro Baller
    35 posts Last Pick at the Park
    edited October 2015
    double post


  • HH_Zorillo
    478 posts Sunday League Hero
    So no player's instruction?

    Only instruction/tactic is counter attacking on the d-pad?
  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    HH_Zorillo wrote: »
    So no player's instruction?

    Only instruction/tactic is counter attacking on the d-pad?

    I dont bother with that stuff but yeah

    I also put the team on defensive
  • RWU
    2978 posts National Call-Up
    Nice guide. How would it work if u use this formation will ultra attacking in FUT?
  • wijnaldum16
    3890 posts National Call-Up
    Used this in FUT13, won division 1 a few times with it (front 3 of TOTS Mertens, Wijnaldum and, funnily enough, TOTS Lens).

    People who hate it can do one. :)

    Btw would you have included Bolasie in the recommended LW's had he not done what he did last season? ;) And nice win yesterday.
  • HH_Zorillo
    478 posts Sunday League Hero
    edited October 2015
    Chris wrote: »
    HH_Zorillo wrote: »
    So no player's instruction?

    Only instruction/tactic is counter attacking on the d-pad?

    I dont bother with that stuff but yeah

    I also put the team on defensive

    Cheers.

    What do you think of these 2 teams that I build:

    (BPL)

    --Depay----Mane---Walcott
    Matic---Ramires--
    Baba-Smalling-Rojo-Ogbonna-Clyne
    Begovic

    (Bundesliga)

    Schurrle--Chicharito--Bellarabi
    Lahm---Vidal
    Bernat-Toprak-Naldo-Sokratis-Opare
    Leno
  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    Used this in FUT13, won division 1 a few times with it (front 3 of TOTS Mertens, Wijnaldum and, funnily enough, TOTS Lens).

    People who hate it can do one. :)

    Btw would you have included Bolasie in the recommended LW's had he not done what he did last season? ;) And nice win yesterday.
    Haha yeah, Yannick Bolasie is an awesome LW
  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    HH_Zorillo wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    HH_Zorillo wrote: »
    So no player's instruction?

    Only instruction/tactic is counter attacking on the d-pad?

    I dont bother with that stuff but yeah

    I also put the team on defensive

    Cheers.

    What do you think of these 2 teams that I build:

    (BPL)

    --Depay----Mane---Walcott
    Matic---Ramires--
    Baba-Smalling-Rojo-Ogbonna-Clyne
    Begovic

    (Bundesliga)

    Schurrle--Chicharito--Bellarabi
    Lahm---Vidal
    Bernat-Toprak-Naldo-Sokratis-Opare
    Leno

    I might bin Matic for someone else in the Prem

    I'd probably put Toprak into the centre
  • BlitzersNL
    24354 posts Club Captain
    Will use it sometime for sure. Can't say anything about it as I never used it before. So for people saying you are rubbish for using it, try before saying anything negative.
  • HH_Zorillo
    478 posts Sunday League Hero
    Chris wrote: »
    I might bin Matic for someone else in the Prem

    I'd probably put Toprak into the centre

    You didn't like Matic? If not, who do you think fits with Ramires? I probably have ~50K left if I sell Matic.
  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    Actually Matic should be alright, just had a proper look at his stats
  • Alperios
    162 posts Has Potential To Be Special
    BlitzersNL wrote: »
    Will use it sometime for sure. Can't say anything about it as I never used it before. So for people saying you are rubbish for using it, try before saying anything negative.

    Totally agreed.
  • HH_Zorillo
    478 posts Sunday League Hero
    Chris wrote: »
    Actually Matic should be alright, just had a proper look at his stats

    Cheers.
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