5221 Guide - "The Art of Counter-Attacking"

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  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    ChrisLFC wrote: »
    'Art' :D

    Is your team name class on grass mate?
    Lol no

    I'm just trying to break the stigma of the 5atb formations

  • Rumplefish
    18748 posts World Class
    Did you try playing in a different style or just counter attacks? I'm going to try it soon but I hate not having a lot of possession. Then again, I also hate not winning and conceding stupid goals...
  • Ravz9
    25767 posts Player of the Year
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    may try this, because im god awful at defending tbh
    suggestions for a 300k team?

    The same reason why I got into it

    For squads, I'd recommend investing most money into the front three. Without them, counter attacking doesn't work at all
    cheers
  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    may try this, because im god awful at defending tbh
    suggestions for a 300k team?

    The same reason why I got into it

    For squads, I'd recommend investing most money into the front three. Without them, counter attacking doesn't work at all
    cheers

    I'm on PC so I cant really make teams for consoles
  • Ravz9
    25767 posts Player of the Year
    edited October 2015
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    may try this, because im god awful at defending tbh
    suggestions for a 300k team?

    The same reason why I got into it

    For squads, I'd recommend investing most money into the front three. Without them, counter attacking doesn't work at all
    cheers

    I'm on PC so I cant really make teams for consoles

    the cheers wasnt sarcastic if thats what you thought it was :flushed:
    decided i might try the 5-2-1-2 instead though as i have all the players for it already, and then ill give the 5-2-2-1 a go
  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    may try this, because im god awful at defending tbh
    suggestions for a 300k team?

    The same reason why I got into it

    For squads, I'd recommend investing most money into the front three. Without them, counter attacking doesn't work at all
    cheers

    I'm on PC so I cant really make teams for consoles

    the cheers wasnt sarcastic if thats what you thought it was :flushed:
    decided i might try the 5-2-1-2 instead though as i have all the players for it already, and then ill give the 5-2-2-1 a go

    It's much more narrow obviously, but it plays differently as a result. The wing backs are much more attacking and the build up play is slower
  • Ravz9
    25767 posts Player of the Year
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    may try this, because im god awful at defending tbh
    suggestions for a 300k team?

    The same reason why I got into it

    For squads, I'd recommend investing most money into the front three. Without them, counter attacking doesn't work at all
    cheers

    I'm on PC so I cant really make teams for consoles

    the cheers wasnt sarcastic if thats what you thought it was :flushed:
    decided i might try the 5-2-1-2 instead though as i have all the players for it already, and then ill give the 5-2-2-1 a go

    It's much more narrow obviously, but it plays differently as a result. The wing backs are much more attacking and the build up play is slower

    its also because im not a fan of wingers this year

    any ideas on how to make this 5-2-2-1?

    Griezmann-Benzema
    James
    Guarin-Casemiro
    Zuniga-Bonucci-Juan Jesus-Castan-Peres
    Perrin
  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    may try this, because im god awful at defending tbh
    suggestions for a 300k team?

    The same reason why I got into it

    For squads, I'd recommend investing most money into the front three. Without them, counter attacking doesn't work at all
    cheers

    I'm on PC so I cant really make teams for consoles

    the cheers wasnt sarcastic if thats what you thought it was :flushed:
    decided i might try the 5-2-1-2 instead though as i have all the players for it already, and then ill give the 5-2-2-1 a go

    It's much more narrow obviously, but it plays differently as a result. The wing backs are much more attacking and the build up play is slower

    its also because im not a fan of wingers this year

    any ideas on how to make this 5-2-2-1?

    Griezmann-Benzema
    James
    Guarin-Casemiro
    Zuniga-Bonucci-Juan Jesus-Castan-Peres
    Perrin

    Griezmann and James wouldn't really fit into a 5221 playing in this style, so maybe just replace them with wingers you like?
  • LawrieC
    272 posts Sunday League Hero
    "The Art of Being a Douche"

    I really don't see the problem with 5atb formations. When I was younger it bothered me so maybe that's why people have an issue, but there's nothing wrong with using a formation, it has its strengths and weaknesses like any other.

    Nice guide, I've used 1 5atb formation this year: 5-3-2. I don't use it any more but it was great for starting out. However it plays totally different to this one, as the fullbacks were hugely important (someone like Baines is incredible as he has the stats of a decent CM). I played a little more possession than counter attack but it was still great fun and the defensive coverage was reassuring.
  • Terminator
    8655 posts League Winner
    Chris wrote: »
    Terminator wrote: »
    Why did you put @Chris in the title? :joy:
    Also, I'll probably use it in the future, nice guide.

    I don't know lol

    Anyway, thanks <3

    No problem <3
  • Terminator
    8655 posts League Winner
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    may try this, because im god awful at defending tbh
    suggestions for a 300k team?

    The same reason why I got into it

    For squads, I'd recommend investing most money into the front three. Without them, counter attacking doesn't work at all
    cheers

    I'm on PC so I cant really make teams for consoles

    the cheers wasnt sarcastic if thats what you thought it was :flushed:
    decided i might try the 5-2-1-2 instead though as i have all the players for it already, and then ill give the 5-2-2-1 a go

    It's much more narrow obviously, but it plays differently as a result. The wing backs are much more attacking and the build up play is slower

    its also because im not a fan of wingers this year

    any ideas on how to make this 5-2-2-1?

    Griezmann-Benzema
    James
    Guarin-Casemiro
    Zuniga-Bonucci-Juan Jesus-Castan-Peres
    Perrin

    Want me to try and make you a 5-2-2-1?
    Just want to know who you want
  • Ravz9
    25767 posts Player of the Year
    Terminator wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    may try this, because im god awful at defending tbh
    suggestions for a 300k team?

    The same reason why I got into it

    For squads, I'd recommend investing most money into the front three. Without them, counter attacking doesn't work at all
    cheers

    I'm on PC so I cant really make teams for consoles

    the cheers wasnt sarcastic if thats what you thought it was :flushed:
    decided i might try the 5-2-1-2 instead though as i have all the players for it already, and then ill give the 5-2-2-1 a go

    It's much more narrow obviously, but it plays differently as a result. The wing backs are much more attacking and the build up play is slower

    its also because im not a fan of wingers this year

    any ideas on how to make this 5-2-2-1?

    Griezmann-Benzema
    James
    Guarin-Casemiro
    Zuniga-Bonucci-Juan Jesus-Castan-Peres
    Perrin

    Want me to try and make you a 5-2-2-1?
    Just want to know who you want

    sure, just keep it as close to that team as possible tbh, and preferably no konoplyanka
  • Terminator
    8655 posts League Winner
    Btw @Chris, surely it's better if you have a rock in the center (Mertesacker) And then 2 pacier CB's on the sides, (Koscielny, Mangala)?
  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    Terminator wrote: »
    Btw @Chris, surely it's better if you have a rock in the center (Mertesacker) And then 2 pacier CB's on the sides, (Koscielny, Mangala)?

    Not from my experience

    The middle guy seems to move around a lot more than the sides
  • Terminator
    8655 posts League Winner
    ee16b3508bb35713265bbe30d3db9b17.jpg

    @Ravz9
    Don't worry I'll try again
  • In division 4, went from winning every other game to losing 4 in a row. Just not my type I guess.
  • Terminator
    8655 posts League Winner
    Terminator wrote: »
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    @Ravz9
    Don't worry I'll try again

    How is this though? Tried to keep as many players as you have and keep the players a bit similar
  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    Melo and Ramires would be a dangerous midfield, might have to try it myself
  • Ravz9
    25767 posts Player of the Year
    Terminator wrote: »
    Terminator wrote: »
    ee16b3508bb35713265bbe30d3db9b17.jpg

    @Ravz9
    Don't worry I'll try again

    How is this though? Tried to keep as many players as you have and keep the players a bit similar

    looks decent but i hate melo (makes hybrid building way harder for me which is annoying)
  • Terminator
    8655 posts League Winner
    edited October 2015
    Whoops
  • Terminator
    8655 posts League Winner
    edited October 2015
    @Ravz9
    Maybe it's just me but it's really hard to make a team with the same type of players
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  • Ravz9
    25767 posts Player of the Year
    Terminator wrote: »
    @Ravz9
    Maybe it's just me but it's really hard to make a team with the same type of players
    3588fbdc70036d48006c4790150a91a1.jpg

    not at all my taste tbh, think ill just keep the same team and get 2 wingers, thanks tho
  • Terminator
    8655 posts League Winner
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Terminator wrote: »
    Maybe it's just me but it's really hard to make a team with the same type of players
    3588fbdc70036d48006c4790150a91a1.jpg

    not at all my taste tbh, think ill just keep the same team and get 2 wingers, thanks tho

    Yeah I figured you wouldn't like this one :joy:
  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    @Ravz9
    I tried to keep the main part of your team the same

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  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    I'm not a huge fan of Maicon at RWB, but he should do alright
  • Ravz9
    25767 posts Player of the Year
    Chris wrote: »
    @Ravz9
    I tried to keep the main part of your team the same

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    that looks great, forgot that cheryshev guy even played for real, cheers!
  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    @Ravz9
    I tried to keep the main part of your team the same

    Capture_zpseipnfgtj.png

    that looks great, forgot that cheryshev guy even played for real, cheers!

    No worries

    Ignore the RF / LF thing, for some reason Futwiz reckon thats what they are :/
  • Terminator
    8655 posts League Winner
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    @Ravz9
    I tried to keep the main part of your team the same

    Capture_zpseipnfgtj.png

    that looks great, forgot that cheryshev guy even played for real, cheers!

    Why not Jese?
  • Chris
    5401 posts Big Money Move
    edited October 2015
    Terminator wrote: »
    Ravz9 wrote: »
    Chris wrote: »
    @Ravz9
    I tried to keep the main part of your team the same

    Capture_zpseipnfgtj.png

    that looks great, forgot that cheryshev guy even played for real, cheers!

    Why not Jese?

    With Jese, you'd have two right footed wingers, I prefer one of each
  • Shevaelite
    483 posts Sunday League Hero
    The formation is effective but it's basically admitting you are rubbish at the game.

    If everyone used 5atb it would be a very boring game.
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